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		Comment on Bruno Bettelheim: Hustling out of the Holocaust by Chris Taylor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://viewsrebooks.info/bruno-bettelheim-hustling-out-of-the-holocaust#comment-2540&quot;&gt;Sheila Appleby Williams&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for sharing that fragment of your family history. Bettelheim&#039;s advice sounds ominous, though I don&#039;t, of course, know what your brother&#039;s experience was like. However, shutting people away in institutions is generally an admission that we don&#039;t have a good solution for dealing with them. Even today, in the UK, many people with severe autism are effectively imprisoned in care homes that offer inadequate care. Abuse within the &#039;care&#039; system still occurs. I&#039;m aware of one journalist in particular who writes on this issue: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ianbirrell.com/tag/autism/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;www.ianbirrell.com/tag/autism/&lt;/a&gt;. 

I dare to hope that your brother didn&#039;t suffer as some have, but being removed from your home at 5 years old is a suffering itself, whatever the reason, good or bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://viewsrebooks.info/bruno-bettelheim-hustling-out-of-the-holocaust#comment-2540">Sheila Appleby Williams</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing that fragment of your family history. Bettelheim&#8217;s advice sounds ominous, though I don&#8217;t, of course, know what your brother&#8217;s experience was like. However, shutting people away in institutions is generally an admission that we don&#8217;t have a good solution for dealing with them. Even today, in the UK, many people with severe autism are effectively imprisoned in care homes that offer inadequate care. Abuse within the &#8216;care&#8217; system still occurs. I&#8217;m aware of one journalist in particular who writes on this issue: <a href="https://www.ianbirrell.com/tag/autism/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ianbirrell.com/tag/autism/</a>. </p>
<p>I dare to hope that your brother didn&#8217;t suffer as some have, but being removed from your home at 5 years old is a suffering itself, whatever the reason, good or bad.</p>
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		Comment on Bruno Bettelheim: Hustling out of the Holocaust by Sheila Appleby Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila Appleby Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2021 23:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I discovered a typewritten letter Bettelheim wrote to my mother on Sept. 18, 1958 when my brother Arthur (diagnosed with autistim/juvenile schizophrenia) had been a student at his Orthogenic School in Chicago at the age of 5 and for several years and was making little progress.
In the letter he says &quot;Arthur is terribly unhappy, unless continually catered to and permitted, without interference, to remain in his delusional world.&quot; &quot;I am afraid I must advise you to arrange for Arthur&#039;s placement in a mental institution.&quot; &quot;The time will come when I will not just advise it, but have to request it.&quot;

My brother was institutionalized from the age of 11 until the institutons closed and he now lives in a group home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered a typewritten letter Bettelheim wrote to my mother on Sept. 18, 1958 when my brother Arthur (diagnosed with autistim/juvenile schizophrenia) had been a student at his Orthogenic School in Chicago at the age of 5 and for several years and was making little progress.<br />
In the letter he says &#8220;Arthur is terribly unhappy, unless continually catered to and permitted, without interference, to remain in his delusional world.&#8221; &#8220;I am afraid I must advise you to arrange for Arthur&#8217;s placement in a mental institution.&#8221; &#8220;The time will come when I will not just advise it, but have to request it.&#8221;</p>
<p>My brother was institutionalized from the age of 11 until the institutons closed and he now lives in a group home.</p>
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		Comment on Bruno Bettelheim: Hustling out of the Holocaust by Chris Taylor		</title>
		<link>https://viewsrebooks.info/bruno-bettelheim-hustling-out-of-the-holocaust#comment-930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2020 22:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://viewsrebooks.info/bruno-bettelheim-hustling-out-of-the-holocaust#comment-922&quot;&gt;Marguerite P Phelps&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s an interesting point you raise about the attitude of countries beyond Germany to refugees and particularly Jews. The enormity of what the Nazis did tends to obscure the complicity of the wider world in their prejudice. Hannah Arendt talks about this in Eichmann in Jerusalem, noting that far fewer Jews died in Denmark and Bulgaria than in other Nazi occupied countries. That was purely because the local populations refused to cooperate with, and actively opposed, the rounding up and incarceration of their neighbours. In some countries the locals were enthusiastic participants. My nation, the United Kingdom, has very fine thoughts of itself in relation to WWII, but I think this has been enabled by the fact that when the Nazis steamrolled the Allied armies in the early stages, they were prevented from occupying the UK, as they did the rest of Europe, by the sea. Had Britain been occupied, its inhabitants would have faced some hard moral choices, and there&#039;s no guarantee that most would have made good ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://viewsrebooks.info/bruno-bettelheim-hustling-out-of-the-holocaust#comment-922">Marguerite P Phelps</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting point you raise about the attitude of countries beyond Germany to refugees and particularly Jews. The enormity of what the Nazis did tends to obscure the complicity of the wider world in their prejudice. Hannah Arendt talks about this in Eichmann in Jerusalem, noting that far fewer Jews died in Denmark and Bulgaria than in other Nazi occupied countries. That was purely because the local populations refused to cooperate with, and actively opposed, the rounding up and incarceration of their neighbours. In some countries the locals were enthusiastic participants. My nation, the United Kingdom, has very fine thoughts of itself in relation to WWII, but I think this has been enabled by the fact that when the Nazis steamrolled the Allied armies in the early stages, they were prevented from occupying the UK, as they did the rest of Europe, by the sea. Had Britain been occupied, its inhabitants would have faced some hard moral choices, and there&#8217;s no guarantee that most would have made good ones.</p>
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		Comment on Bruno Bettelheim: Hustling out of the Holocaust by Marguerite P Phelps		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marguerite P Phelps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2020 17:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Intriguing and disturbing article. I do agree with you on most of your points. I do, however, give some credence to Bettleheim&#039;s contention that the initial purpose of the concentration camps were more of a deterrent than  an extermination vehicle. My research indicates that the earlier detainments were often temporary, a warning to leave with their families after relinquishing most of their assets. It was called the European plan, I believe. It must have been a difficult decision to make to relocate as your article suggests. The added difficulty was that immigration access was sharply curtailed in relatively short order. Ships took off loaded with affluent, educated Jews seeking safe harbor only to be denied entry. The United States, my own country, stopped accepting Jews early in the war. The novel, Ship of Fools, provides a fictional account of this. The reality is that Hitler was quoted as stating that it was proof that no other country wanted the Jews, which ultimately led to his understanding that he&#039;d been given carte blanche to do whatever he wanted in terms of the Jewish question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing and disturbing article. I do agree with you on most of your points. I do, however, give some credence to Bettleheim&#8217;s contention that the initial purpose of the concentration camps were more of a deterrent than  an extermination vehicle. My research indicates that the earlier detainments were often temporary, a warning to leave with their families after relinquishing most of their assets. It was called the European plan, I believe. It must have been a difficult decision to make to relocate as your article suggests. The added difficulty was that immigration access was sharply curtailed in relatively short order. Ships took off loaded with affluent, educated Jews seeking safe harbor only to be denied entry. The United States, my own country, stopped accepting Jews early in the war. The novel, Ship of Fools, provides a fictional account of this. The reality is that Hitler was quoted as stating that it was proof that no other country wanted the Jews, which ultimately led to his understanding that he&#8217;d been given carte blanche to do whatever he wanted in terms of the Jewish question.</p>
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		Comment on Punk&#8217;s Undead by S Taylor		</title>
		<link>https://viewsrebooks.info/punks-undead#comment-49</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Traveller your footprints are
the only path, the only track:
wayfarer, there is no way,
there is no map or Northern star,
just a blank page and a starless dark;
and should you turn round to admire
the distance that you&#039;ve made today
the road will billow into dust.
No way on and no way back,
there is no way my comrade: trust
your own quick step, the end&#039;s delay,
the vanished trail of your own wake,
wayfarer, sea-walker, Christ.
                                                         Don Paterson/Antonio Machado]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traveller your footprints are<br />
the only path, the only track:<br />
wayfarer, there is no way,<br />
there is no map or Northern star,<br />
just a blank page and a starless dark;<br />
and should you turn round to admire<br />
the distance that you&#8217;ve made today<br />
the road will billow into dust.<br />
No way on and no way back,<br />
there is no way my comrade: trust<br />
your own quick step, the end&#8217;s delay,<br />
the vanished trail of your own wake,<br />
wayfarer, sea-walker, Christ.<br />
                                                         Don Paterson/Antonio Machado</p>
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		Comment on The Poetry of Chance: Mallarmé and Meillassoux by Sheila Taylor		</title>
		<link>https://viewsrebooks.info/the-poetry-of-chance-mallarme-and-meillassoux#comment-4</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m enjoying these without needing to read the books! though I would like to read the Japanese one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m enjoying these without needing to read the books! though I would like to read the Japanese one.</p>
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		Comment on A Whale of a Time by Sheila Taylor		</title>
		<link>https://viewsrebooks.info/a-whale-of-a-time#comment-3</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2018 05:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Intriguing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing!</p>
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